Wired has an interesting story on a meeting being held this week at Asilomar on the governance of geoengineering. Several of my colleagues are in attendance. I was invited but decided to spend my spring break otherwise ;-)The meeting is interesting because it is sponsored by a group with a financial interest in geoengineering. From the Wired story:
While many of the field’s top scientists are attending the meeting, it has drawn criticism from high-level scientists with an interest in geoengineering like Stanford’s Ken Caldeira and the University of Calgary’s David Keith.The choice of venue was by design:“My only concern about this meeting is that the convening organization, [Climate Response Fund] is nontransparent and appears to be closely tied to Climos which was conceived to do ocean fertilization for profit,” Keith wrote. “While I am happy to see profit-driven startups drive innovation, I think tying ocean fertilization to carbon credits was a sterling example of how not to govern climate engineering, and I am therefore concerned to see a closely linked organization at the center of a meeting on governance. A meeting on governance ought to start by having transparent and disinterested governance.”
Despite Keith’s strongly worded statement about the conference, he has decided to attend to, as he put it, “speak out.” Caldeira declined his invitation, telling Wired.com that he preferred governance meetings held by “established professional societies and non-profits without a stake in the outcomes.”
The group is meeting at the Asilomar resort in California, a dreamy enclave a few hours south of San Francisco. The gathering intentionally harkens back to the February 1975 meeting there of molecular biologists hashing out rules to govern what was then the hot-button scientific issue of the day: recombinant DNA and the possibility of biohazards.
The 1975 process wasn’t perfect, but after a fraught and meandering few days, the scientists released a joint statement that placed some restrictions and conditions on research, particularly with pathogens. That meeting is now held up as a model for how researchers can successfully assume the mantle of self-regulation.
My view is that geoengineering using technologies such as solar radiation management is never going to emerge as a viable policy option -- much more on this forthcoming in The Climate Fix this summer. We can expect that far-from-disinterested scientists will be using the issue to advance agendas, and often hiding behind the fig leaf of pure science. Asimolar is just a start.Susan Wright, a historian of science at the University of Michigan, has called the bargain supposedly struck at Asilomar — some research restrictions in exchange for scientific self-governance — a myth on both sides of the deal.
“It is a myth that most scientists working under competitive pressures can address the implications of their own work with dispassion and establish appropriately stringent controls — any more than an unregulated Bill Gates can give competing browsers equal access to the world wide web,” she wrote. “Sure enough, some five years later, the controls proposed at Asilomar and developed by the National Institutes of Health were dismantled without anything like adequate knowledge of the hazards.”
Further, she says, “it is equally a myth that scientists in this field are self-governing.” Instead, their research agendas are shaped by utilitarian interests of government or corporate sponsors. Even at that early stage, before the biotech boom of later years, molecular biologists were never doing pure science.
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Roger,
I would suggest that climate science, for many years, has been dominated by people pushing agendas under cover of pure science.
There may be important benefits to ocean fertilization- after all, fertilizing farm lands has fed billions. Calling ocean fertilization 'geo-engineering' is no more, or less, accurate than using the same term for land based agricultural fertilization. As with nearly anything that can be swept up into the vast maw of AGW, if it can allegedly make a difference to the carbon budget (or financial budget of an AGW profiteer), it suddenly has a patina of moral imperative.
Increasing fishery yields by fertilization is an honorable and worthy goal in and of itself. My bet is it will have no more impact on the climate than large scale agriculture does.
We need an engineering assessment what is feasible done by experienced engineers not academic scientists. Then a risk assessment of the viable. All projects will carry a finite risk. This should not stop them if the reward great. The environmental movement e.g. Greenpeace will oppose everything no matter what the reward. This also should not stop them.
Roger,
What stealth advocacy do you see here? Sorry but I don't get it...
-4-Marlowe
A for-profit group is quietly behind efforts to set up a governance regime for geoengineering. That seems pretty stealth to me.
Imagine if a company doing stem cell research was quietly behind efforts to establish a governance regime for stem cell research ... or if ExxonMobil was behind efforts to develop a set of climate policies.
"Imagine if a company doing stem cell research was quietly behind efforts to establish a governance regime for stem cell research ... or if ExxonMobil was behind efforts to develop a set of climate policies."
Hmmm. As you know, there ARE companies behind the efforts to develop a set of climate policies. And they are not the fossil fuel-producing companies, either.
Roger, I will buy The Climate Fix, but can you tell me if it starts with the premise that there is something that needs fixing?
Self governance is very common industry and works very well. Frankly I would rather see industry put forth solutions than the governments. They are far more competent. The ExxonMobils are very successful because they understand there business-energy very well. They also do a tremendous amount of R&D. The US government itself relies extensively on the These companies when setting standards.The problem here may be that there is only one industrial entity active instead of many
According to the AGW alarmists, ExxonMobil IS behind all climate policies that differ from the alarmists' preferred ones!
Mike:
"Self governance is very common industry and works very well. Frankly I would rather see industry put forth solutions than the governments."
A very good point. Perhaps the best example is ASTM, which includes everyone with an interest, including govt.
-7-MIKE
There are two issues here ... industry self-governance and the hidden nature of that self-governance. There are certainly issues associated with the former, but the latter is unambiguously problematic -- that is, the stealth nature of the industry role.
-6-jae
Thanks, we'll have lots of opportunities to discuss this topic. But the short answer is "yes" -- I recommend specific policy action. One only recommends action if something needs to be fixed.
Roger
If you had say dozen representatives of industry + academia and government with an equal vote. I don't think there is anything stealth about it. Jae#9 cites a very good example ASTM. There committees are balanced between users and producers. There are many more examples. Everyone has a stealth agenda including academics and gov't as we saw with climategate.
-12-MIKE
My concern is not at all about industry being at the table.
Roger-13
I am confused. Are you saying it is just this conference because it has one industry sponsor?
-14-MIKE
The industry connection behind the sponsorship (by an NGO) was not announced
Roger
I get it now.
Where are you on Keith's ...I think tying ocean fertilization to carbon credits was a sterling example of how not to govern climate engineering.....
-16-MIKE
Well, I think that ocean fertilization and carbon credits are both bad ideas to start with. Putting them together is thus something like bad ideas squared ;-)
-17-MIKE
You'll get the full story in The Climate Fix, but for now see:
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/will_the_future_be_geo-engineered1/#pielke
http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2175
Roger
In seed you say....Geo-engineering does not directly address the cause-effect relationship between emissions and increasing atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide...Firstly why does it need to be direct? Most if not all of the carbon dioxide being emitted was once in the atmosphere. Ocean fertilization is merely recycling it. The recycling uses the same process photosynthesis that made the oil or coal in the first place. I think the term recycling is more appropriate than geoengineering for ocean seeding.
thanks for the clarification Roger. I agree that having private enterprise at the table is necessary but it should be transparent (originally I thought you were suggesting Caldeira was the stealth advocate).
I'd also suggest that the governance issues wrt to geoengineering on the scale that is typically contemplated are so significant as to make the entire exercise rather futile given the current state of international politics and our limited understanding of the benefits and risks of the various strategies...
BTW why are carbon credits a bad thing?
-19, 20-Marlowe
On this issue Caldeira and I appear to be on the same page.
Carbon credits are bad because carbon trading is doomed to fail and offsets provide an illusion -- policy magic, so to speak.
From the first link:
"In short, geo-engineering fails comprehensively with respect to the three criteria for technological fixes offers by Sarewitz and Nelson, suggesting that it offers little prospect to serve as a successful contribution to efforts to deal with increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide. "
Amen! Geo-engineering is even dumber than cap and trade!
"Carbon credits are bad because carbon trading is doomed to fail"
To me this sounds like: carbon credits are bad because they won't work. why are they less likely to work than a carbon tax? Wrt to offsets, if they are real and verifiable (think biochar for example) then where is the illusion?
And I would also suggest that one need not have a C&T system to have a viable market for offsets (e.g. I could see governments paying for offsets that achieve multiple goals besides climate mitigation. To use the biochar example, it's conceivable that money earmarked by aid agencies to combat desertification could be used to help fund biochar application in sub-tropical soils that are low in soil organic carbon (and would thus benefit from biochar)...
Note, I use the biochar example in part because of your own self-avowed interest in air capture. To me this is a technology begging for research and deployment dollars that has the possibility of addressing multiple problems...
Roger-21
If the carbon is truly captured in say ocean fertilization why would you describe it as an illusion?
Roger
Here is what "natural" Iron does:
http://www.scientificblogging.com/news/iron_in_northwest_rivers_fuels_phytoplankton_fish_populations
Judging by Keith's remarks, their stealth advocacy wasn't very stealthy ....
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