04 May 2010

The Copenhagen Tapes

[UPDATE: The tapes can be heard here. The narration is in German, most of the exchanges among leaders are in English.]

Der Spiegel has some details of the negotiations at the Copenhagen climate meeting last December among heads of state. EUObserver has a story in English, and here is an excerpt:

Leaked tapes from the failed climate summit in Copenhagen published in German weekly Der Spiegel have documented a deeper rift between France, Germany and the US and China and India than previously thought.

The tapes were recorded "accidentally" on 18 December 2009, during a meeting of 25 leaders, including Germany's Angela Merkel, France's Nicolas Sarkozy, US President Barack Obama and the representatives of China and India, Der Spiegel reports.

When she presented Europe's demand to have a commitment for a global reduction of 50 percent in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, China's negotiator intervened abruptly and said: "Thank you for all your proposals. We've already said we cannot accept the long-term goal of 50 percent."

At that point, French President Nicolas Sarkozy jumped in. "With all due respect and friendship for China," he said, the West had already committed itself to an 80 percent reduction by the mid-century mark. "And China, who will soon be the biggest economy in the world, now tells the world 'these engagements are for you, not for us.' This is unacceptable. One has to react to this hypocrisy," he scoffed.

US President Barack Obama tried to moderate the discussion, but also expressed his frustration that the Chinese premier preferred to stay in his hotel room and to send his chief negotiator instead. "I know there is a Chinese premier here, one who takes important decisions," the US President said. Mr Obama then told the Chinese negotiator, He Yafei, "[the premier] is giving you instructions at this stage."

Mr Yafei replied: "I do not speak for myself here. I speak for China. I heard President Sarkozy talk about hypocrisy. I would avoid such terms." He argued that industrial countries had to assume their responsibility after causing 80 percent of all greenhouse gas emissions within one century. "Don't run away from that," he said.

There is not much new here, though it is striking to see the exact discussions among leaders. The lesson to be taken from the exchange is that when prospects for economic growth run up against emissions reduction targets, or are perceived to do so, it is economic growth that will win out every time. This lesson has yet to be fully appreciated in the world of international climate policy.

6 comments:

eric144 said...

I don't think it's credible that anything from that level was a real leak. I would imagine it was a choreographed set up to blame the Indians and Chinese, who couldn't care less.

The real, horrifying, unbearable truth is that it was American voters who didn't believe the lies. Despite the authority of all the world's leading politicians, corporations, scientific bodies, newspapers, television stations, climate scientists and their dogs, almost no one fell for it.

They admitted that a climate bill couldn't be pushed through, so had to blame the Chinese and Indians.

Maybe that oil spill might spark an idea or two ?

Malcolm said...

Are these people for real? International treaty discussions based on playground politics. This is no way to conduct business.

Marlowe Johnson said...

One wonders when the notion of mutually assured destruction will begin to take hold in these discussions to temper the realpolitik considerations that have dominated at the international level (as Roger rightly notes).

Are we really no smarter than lemmings? When it comes to acting collectively at the global level I'm not so sure...

itisi69 said...

Industrial countries after having exploited the other countries as colonies up to and including most part of the 20th century for their own prosperity asking the developing countries to stall their own development to achieve the same prosperity is a total hypocrisy and a chutzpah to boot.

I don't believe the naivity of the "leaders" of the free world, especially Frau Merkel, to expect that China and India will obey their commands based on flawed climate science.

Welcome to the real (politik) world...

Frontiers of Faith and Science said...

'Confusion to the enemy'.
Obsessing on CO2 as the key to world climate control is doomed because it is stupid on its face.

Rudolf Kipp said...

Sorry, I posted my comment in the wrong blog.

I have prepared an english subtitled version of the Spiegel-Video:

The Copenhagen Tapes (english)


Since I had quite some trouble catching all the words, especially from the chinese representative, please feel free editing the subtitles on the Dotsub page, where I made the subtitles.

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